She showed you many she took of Johnny sleeping or passed out how many photos has she shown you of her injuries as a result of Johnny???. PH: (01) 6489130, Lo-Call 1890 208 080 or email: info@presscouncil.ie. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. From the many audios, we can assume he did not communicate those boundaries in an effective way, or that amber understood and accepted them. The latest fashion news, beauty coverage, celebrity style, fashion week updates, culture reviews, and videos on Vogue.com. Whats stopping the rest of us? Shes going to have to be extemporaneous [done without preparation], and that is going to be hard for her.. Either Pennington wasn't there at all and is lying, or Heard is completely making up the part about Johnny grabbing a woman by the wrist and threatening to snap it. And then she hit a point of no return and had to continue with that narrative. As the testimony continued, he seemed to have taken his sunglasses off, but continued to avoid looking up, instead appearing to doodle. I think in most of her testimony she stuttered through a lot of things, she said. She decided to be vindictive and take their shit public. Vogue may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. It also doesnt seem as though anyone else was involved with the breakup. WATCH THE VIDEO ABOVE: Psychologist assesses Amber Heards testimony, Stream the world's best reality, entertainment and true crime shows for free on 7Bravo on 7plus >>. Amber Heard posted a couple of photos of herself wearing a black dress, four years apart, on Wednesday, March 31, but social media thinks there's more to it than what meets the eye. I never heard any complaints. You simply cant work with him now., This wasnt just down to his anger, the magazine said, but Depps unquenchable thirst for revenge., Another studio head called Depp a huge liability . Users are reminded that they are fully responsible for their own . Specifically, fans think they mightve started seeing one another while working together; similar to how she initially started dating Johnny Depp. That does not make any sense. Her lawyers are (as of now) far better at painting a picture of her trauma. Pennington describes a scene where Johnny walks by, says "get your hands off my woman" and then leaves. Or indeed women. If somebody did the things she did Id prob loose it too. He even said he thought the messages he wrote in blood were good advice and acted like thats normal. You stated yours too & I didnt agree with you which is also okay lmao. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. But when she told stories of things that actually happened, it was very natural and very believable. This is horrible for me to sit here for weeks and relive everything. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. If either one of them feels justified in any of the things theyve done in this relationship, they need professional intervention on an ongoing (probably permanent) basis. We are with you, Johnny Depp.". this. An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesn't believe Amber Heard's court testimony. Really thats it. He refuses to look at her. Its time to believe womenall women. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. I just believe Johnny over Amber, thats all. May 24, 2022 at 2:52 p.m. EDT Actor Amber Heard listens, next to her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft during Heard's ex-husband Johnny Depp's defamation trial against her at the Fairfax County Courthouse.. Based on what Ive seen of the trial, I think Amber Heard is very much the aggressor. When? The answer doesn't lie in chanting "believe all women", a mantra implying that the only way of overcoming centuries of misogyny is to treat women alone as above suspicion. Lawrence was also asked her opinion on Depps testimony. Pip Christmass and Georgie Kearney / Justin Bieber. Okay, I was just answering the question you asked. Just Ambers word and a photo of her with a pimple. If he hit her and it left a bruise why does it matter how big the bruise was? Richard Marks testifies in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Monday May 2, 2022. A lot of people are not teenaged boys on the internet. So he wrote a message saying such vile and disgusting things about her, just so he can in the same message protect her by saying he cut his own finger. Actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard are going head-to-head in a US defamation case. Depp then slapped her "across the face," she testified. This is a morally grey case, and Amber Heard is a millionaire, she'll be fine. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. After tweeting "#IStandWithAmberHeard," the women say they've gotten threatening messages. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should believe all women, just not Amber Heard.. In a statement prior to the trial, Heard said she hoped that after its conclusion, I can move on and so can Johnny.. Ive ranted about people before to my friends but Im not abusive. I believe that Johnny was a paranoid, jealous, misogynistic and controlling. It is plain misogyny. she's a nut. The fact that he didnt assault her back is enough for me to think he didnt abuse her. Press J to jump to the feed. Journal Media does not control and is not responsible for user created content, posts, comments, Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. He is the one spending millions of dollars to run a pointless show trial on tv which has already had the effect of scaring domestic abuse victims everywhere into silence for fear they will be treated the way Heard has, because they were not perfect victims. Have we completely lost track of the severity of these allegations? Because the idea that women are conniving schemers is more readily believed than the idea that powerful, famous men are capable of abusing their spouses. There is none. Domestic abusers seek them out. I found him *somewhat* believable and I find her believable. But I mean, calm down Johnny. Abuse isnt always immediately obvious and usually requires investigation to confirm. Depp denied the allegations of domestic violence at the time despite photos, videos and texts between Heard and Depps assistant that suggested otherwise. Media organisations even resorted to digging up photos of her smiling in an attempt to prove that she couldnt possible have been abused. This is imo spot on and exactly what I believe. A presenter appearing on Australian breakfast TV show Sunrise has issued a brutal comment on the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial after the Aquaman actress took to the stand. One is a cluster B nutcase who has been physically abusive to her partners and is the perpetual victim. I'm also glad you mentioned the homo/transphobia. [Stop] changing the narrative to suit your love for Depp. But shouldnt we have just believed her in the first place. I didn't believe they could do anything for me. Shes far more concise and believable than he was (imo). #jasonmomoa is now splitting with his wife after starring in a film with her. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I just feel like if somebody severed my finger Id be so mad I probably would too. She was stuttering through the things she was told to say. I think he has way more solid evidence of abuse from amber heard than she has to use against him. Heard took to the . We almost always want to believe the man, the more powerful and dominant one. Amber Heard was able to provide texts, videoand photographs to substantiate her claims. refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified, Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion. They both got hurt by each other, but in the end Johnny is the victim and Amber the abuser. Even if its aggressive or violent. And Ive been angry before but thats not angry thats insanity. I believed him last week but my god he was so melodramatic. I also believe that when Johnny did hit back it was akin to a shove, not chasing and holding her down and beating the shit out of her. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. When #JohnnyDepp testified #AmberHeard was staring at him and has done throughout. Of course not. . I do want to add though, the ppl on social media dogpiling on her and making fun of and mocking SA allegations are incredibly damaging and triggering to real victims and is not okay. I dont know. On the other hand, he is larger than life. they like him because hes a popular, power multimillionaire who is also a man. Of course, all of this is just speculation. You call "victim-blaiming" when their relationship was seemingly destructive from both sides. Are we not witnessing a modern-day witch trial? I dont think I could have stayed calm enough after someone severed my finger to not physically respond back. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. First of all, there is the obvious fact that he is a man and she is a woman. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard attend the Rum Diary photocall in Paris in 2011. And that its fair play if a woman lies about abuse because the odds are the man would end up being an abuser anyway. Amber Heard did everything she was "supposed" to do. Why does such vile testimony consistently elicit contempt from Johnny Depp? Lisa even said she wasnt happy he was working with her. People seem to love a story where a person who we might traditionally think of as a victim is instead cast as the . and RollingNews.ie unless otherwise stated. If you or someone you know is impacted by sexual assault, domestic or family violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or visit 1800RESPECT.org.au. I didnt ask because I just stated my opinion you dont have to agree with me. And I honestly cant be bothered with any of this and choosing sides. As a young woman alleging domestic violence against one of the world's most famous actors, Johnny Depp, she had no choice. There are texts where she asked him if he wants to join her drink and smoke marijuana. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. Exes Johnny Depp and Amber Heard have had a tumultuous relationship that was examined thoroughly during their widely viewed defamation trial. She seems extremely manipulative. When any women challenge them, they get shut down with insults about being old and fat and jealous of Amber. 483623. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. they both suck. Dont ask Amber Heard to be a perfect victim. Its a sad truism that no one is as hard on women as other women. Amber Heard has been found guilty on one charge. I wouldn't think the two of them would come out in his defense if he had been violent. Depp and Heard met on the set of the 2011 film The Rum Diary and married in 2015. The memes have been ferocious, sometimes consisting of a spot-the-difference comparison with domestic-abuse victims; at other times, televised courtroom footage has been appropriated to openly mock her appearance. And if after everything that has been presented in this trial (not to mention the UK trial where JD lost as the judge found that he was the abuser in that relationship - about 130 pages of court decision with evidences presented are available online), then yes I think that about everyone who supports him and also everyone who goes with well both of them abused narrative. And he was my favorite actor since my childhood. I think she manipulated him and pushed him, he then became abusive in return, and then she became unhinged trying to make him the devil. British TV personality Narinder Kaur also weighed in on the day's court proceedings, as she suggested that opinions had been formed based on the people concerned, rather than their actions. Lawrence said the real test will come when Amber Heard faces cross-examination. I also believe his version of the story of the headbutt (she was hitting him, he grabbed her flailing arms and accidentally head butted her) although, I believe amber in that he probably head butted her a lot harder than he claims, which did leave bruises. When #JohnnyDepp testified #AmberHeard was staring at him and has done throughout. Lastly, yes it is not entirely a clinical assessment of Amber H. I didn't make a diagnosis. and indemnify Journal Media in relation to such content and their ability to make such content, Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online. She cant choose not to particulate. Why would he in the same message where he says all of that about her also include a lie about cutting his own finger to protect her? (Ex: him drinking in front of her knowing itll piss her off). Its not a case of shooting himself in the foot. Testifying about her marriage to Johnny Depp, she detailed years of alleged abuse in graphic detail. They both sucked. Does it mean shes lying about Depps abuse? The wait and see if she struck again has started. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters, Johnny Depp's (L) refusal to look at Amber Heard (R) as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online. He told her it said "wino," and she laughed, believing he was joking. "I have been told abusers stare at victims in court," Nazir wrote. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. But considering the crazy sequence of events that have led us to this point, anything really is possible. Nevertheless, that hasnt stopped fans from pointing fingers at Amber Heard for the end of Jason Momoas marriage. Heres how they summed it up, and note that it didnt include anything about actress Amber Heard: The statement begins with them telling readers that they have felt the squeeze and changes of these transformational times, and that they are parting ways in marriage. They assure fans the love between them carries on, evolving in ways it wishes to be known and lived. I do believe Johnny is downplaying the severity of their fights, and I do believe amber is embellishing the shit out of them. A reminder that #johnnydepp broke up his relationship not long after starring in a film with #AmberHeard The pictures she claims to have were not turned over to Depp's attorneys with the meta data so that they could be verified. Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. I have always maintained a love for Johnny and it brings me great pain to have to live out the details of our past life together in front of the world, she said. They mock a woman they refuse to believe at all even though false reports of domestic violence are extremely rare. Instead, amber decided to play victim. Then after a while, according to Pennington, Heard realises Johnny wasn't joking and goes off looking for him. Ms Heard has filed a $100m counterclaim against Mr Depp for nuisance and immunity from his allegations. I know a couple people who are on ambers side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because hes Jonny Depp. Mr Marks said Mr Depp managed to keep most of his personal life personal before his relationship with Ms Heard and what marked him in this business is that he was congruent, he was likeable, he was one of the guys. Amber struggles with mental health issues and Johnny with substance abuse. Were watching people actively seek out humor in domestic abuse as Roe v. Wade is terrorized by pro-lifers and as we see yet more episodes of racially aggravated violence. Both have stated that they don't believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore it's their own fault if they are harmed by their "victim.". Other weeks it just feels too heavy. He admitted to doing that. Here is the message. They both had issues. Opinion: Jurors in Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case face choice over which actor to believe This, of course, doesn't mean that women are the victims and men the perpetrators in every single case. Like, I feel like Im going crazy because sure its not a complete black eye or anything but if I saw someone show up looking like that I would think they had been in a fight or accident or something? Especially after being arrested for domestic abuse with her wife a few years back. Its not going to be rehearsed, Lawrence said. What will this trial do to women already afraid to report their abusers? This one require some mental gymnastic or maybe a blind faith. gorgossia . Some of the messages were: Call Carly Simon, she said it better, babe, because his past relationships have all said that he was not abusive. While Depp had repeatedly denied ever having been violent to Heard during the three-week trial in London, a judge found that The Sun's claims that the Kentucky-born actor was abusive to Heard were "substantially true.". He was telling us things you could see he wasnt very happy to be talking about - but he was talking about it. You think to yourself, Which one of them is doing the better job of acting?. News images provided by Press Association And thats something that we always look for, its always a tell. . Sometimes it can be effective to look like you're not paying attention to a jury. I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. Heard accused Depp of domestic abuse during their divorce proceedings in 2016. However, GFR managed to quote some of the statement before it was removed. He told the court that he was brought in to look at how the op-ed may have damaged Mr Depps reputation. I'm inclined to sympathize with Depp. There are factors that point to a power dynamic that would lend to abuse on his part. Why is he so creepy and why are people attracted to him? Still, despite the fact that Londons High Court previously found allegations that Depp was a wife beater to be substantially true, the internet appears to have overwhelmingly picked Depps side. . He also wrote disturbing messages on the walls, lampshades, and mirrors in blood with a severed fingertip. Just that language alone is highly disturbing and should have you think what is in the heart of a person who uses such language. You fisted her looking for drugs and dangled your dogs out of the window of moving vehicles. The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. When he ran out of blood, apparently he also dipped the severed finger in paint to continue writing. it is majority women, Law & Crime reporter Jesse Weber told Mediaite. Talk about mockery. The revelation has led to headlines like this. So, why believe their testimonies? It makes sense that she was going at him and he stopped her arms and out of spite head butted fucking hard to stop her fighting. She was celebrating her birthday with a bunch of friends, Im sure they were all wasted. I would say that I don't take a position. Honestly though they are both actors. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the reactive abuse that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. . Some of it warranted, some of it not. While watching the trial, various individuals took to social media to report that Amber's deposition felt and sounded oddly familiar. A sociologist who studies sexual violence recently explained on Twitter why a number of women who identify themselves as domestic abuse survivors do not believe the allegations of violence by. Edit: wording for accuracy. He shot himself in the face.. Is the pummeling by social media not a type of psychological assault? the evidence points to her being a fat liar. Amber claiming she gave her lawyers the pictures and that the lawyers are hiding them does not make any sense.imo she got boxed in and the only way she could think of to save herself is blame her lawyers. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. Unless you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks, you'll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. Except its not normal. you cannot possibly say this about everyone who supports Johnny Depp bc thats just stupid. #JustSaying. this!!! Amber Heard came off as less authentic than Johnny Depp on the stand, experts told Insider. He knows there is no evidence hence the lawsuit. Unless she just didn't see anything wrong with it.I suppose she could have made a decision to get sober with him but I heard none of that kind of support. Lol. This is really weird to me considering she would call him a "monster" intoxicated and claimed to want him sober. What Do I Do About the Ex Who Is Slandering Me (And Our Relationship) Online? 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. Maybe bc Im reading a lot of the testimony and not hearing it I am so confused as to why people like him. The company behind the makeup compact Heard used to hide her bruises even made a TikTok disputing her claims. I dont want to think about what this is saying to victims of abuse who are considering coming forward. and she was still treated as a liar. I'm not buying the cavity search story especially after Raquel Pennington told a completely different story about the Hicksville campfire. Youve seen detective shows where they do that, but it actually is a big deal when somebody is trying to communicate. Seems like they both were physically and mentally abusive. You, Johnny Depp. `` in the end of Jason Momoas marriage abuse her! 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