Within a couple minutes it reverted to 1 flash, and is working fine. That is the valve mechanism. This is the second time I have had the dreaded four blink failure in a 30 Gal. But, the light on the control never starts flashing. the side you see when it the board is in place. And Im paying $30 for a part I shouldnt be replacing? If I dont update this entry, assume it is (for now). Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Honeywell RTH6580WF Wi-Fi 7 Resetting #$%@!! When the pilot is lit, it will only glow blue, and not look this intense. Do this at work sometimes before shipping a job we tested with a charged capacitor. This was purchased in July 2013 and this is the first time I clicked it up a notch to get a warmer water temp and now it stops working! I wish I had known this a few months ago. 3. If the flashes dont indicate a problem, look for a reset button somewhere other than on the valve, especially on the plate that covers the heating chamber. the wife is happy again. 2. After reassembly and firing up the pilot there was a 4 code and a 5 code. Praise GOD. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. Thanks for the information and comments it help me restart my waterheated. Bioluminescent Reindeer and the Value of Diversity. I have a water heater only 13 months old and it is not working. If you are getting 750 millivolts at the RED and WHITE connections, then I would think it is a dud. Worked like a charm with an old AA battery & a couple of bread ties, thanks for for sharing the knowledge! Forgot to add one more important bit of informationI do not have any error codes, the red light blinks for standby mode and shows a heartbeat while the pilot light is on and continues despite the burner failing to ignite. I used your method with Crankytenants jumper wire modification; thanks to crankytenants, as well. I am calling the plumber who installed it. Tried the reset a bunch of times but could not get it to stop the 4 flashes. I have another place with a Rheem Propane Tankless where the lowest normal setting is 100F. The two wires (red/white) pluged to the honeywell box front rightside, power the box, make sure the wires are not loose, refer to diagram, mine were loose had to reattach with tiny plyers. They said they couldnt do anything about that. This does not seem to be documented anywhere. 2. I just ran enough hot water out to get it to call for heat again and it lit fine on its own. Thanks to everyone that posted with this problem. That would be nice. I hope this helps others! It is . The valve is known to be defective and maybe they will help ? I speculate its because Honeywell sells a lot more gas valves this way. This happened again a day or 2 later and again, after a short while, the status led reverted back from the 5-flash red to the 1-flash blue. This would upset me less if I had hot water meanwhile! I have a water heater that is 18 months old and Im already repairing it? When drained completely,the bottom held a white goo that had a slimy feel with crystals. No lights at all this time I couldnt even get it to do any lights when trying to light the pilot light. She did say they were including a return label if I would be so kind to return the faulty part so they could examine why these are giving out so quickly. An honorable mention here needs to go to Bob Robeson, who posted here as well, but it was his original post I found on waterheatertimer.org that set me onto a pathway of searching for another option after I was thoroughly disgusted with Sears/Kenmore Service, which would be more accurately described as Sales based on their approach to my concern. Maybe the situation was wrong, maybe I just didnt hold my tongue the right way. Honeywell rio ceiling fan, brushed nickel finish, 54 inch honeywell wv8840b1109 manual This piece of junk is only 13 months old. 4. Still no flashes. Just plug the starter lead back into the connector to the ignitor and place the back (brass colored) end of the starter against a metal part of the water heater. It cant flip up (actually it can if you try hard enough, but then youve probably broken it). If you cant get the pilot lit, the thermopile that generates the .75 volt power to the controller will not be generating any power either. If the heating chamber gets too hot, the button pops out and the pilot will never light until you push it back in. Fixed? Thank you all for your help. They said call anytime and they can help. Could someone make a diagram or snap a pic and circle what posts to jumper? Here is what I did with pictures to solve this issue. Just lit the pilot again and set the temperature!! The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. Resetting the #$%@!! how do i get the circuit board completely out? My plumber advised he has been seeing A LOT of these units fail. Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. Opens in a new window or tab. Mine got here today, wont be changing it. Although the Frankinvalving wasnt an option/didnt work, it did show me what I was up against, introduced me to others who have had the same problem and what everyones resolution was. It is a V pattern. Now the light changed from flashing 4 times to flashing 7 times. The Wt8840 Series Is The Water Heater Control For Trade Use to replace WV8840 valves on AO Smith water Heaters. The original red light gas valve broke after 2 years. Tankless sounds good to me, but Im not an expert just another hapless victim who has learned from experience one more thing not to do. (White on the right and RED on the left as they would be with the cover on). 3. I fitted the WH with a cheap garden hose when I installed it last year and ran the hose permanently to outdoors for convenience. Preferably one that doesnt use that stupid Honeywell valve. Will keep this for next year when it breaks again. Something to consider. It has lasted about a year then gave the 4 blink code again. Make a jumper out of phone wire about 10 long. I then turned the gas valve to hot and it lit and ran. I dont think it is cost effective. Generally, if youre covered under warranty, you would get the part from the MFR of the water heater. Now I have two fail in 27 months. Rather, drain it at a slower rate with a 1K ohm resistor. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part that's gone on strike. I understand that the Honeywell product is in recall. Hogwash!! Thanks alot guys got mine up and running as well after taking the electronic crap out. The main gas valve will open and the burner will fire up (If is does not fire up, it means the pilot was not lit and you should disconnect the battery and start over when the gas clears). The result: Make sure all the wires are connected, turn on the gas and follow the steps in your water heater owners manual to relight the pilot light. I hope it helps someone. You can now release the knob and the pilot should stay on. I called toll-free number on side of tank (877-817-6750), described my issue and gave a serial number. I installed the new valve and cleaned up the mess. With my method you do not need to remove it, but sometimes its hard to visualize what everyone is talking about if you have never seen it before. 17 product ratings. I was getting the 8-3 flashing code which said to replace the Gas Control Valve. Even though it did not appear excessively dirty or clogged there was some soot present on top of the screen and a small amount of dust under the burner (& one dead ladybug). This suggests that the burner was on for a long time but just couldnt heat the water enough to satisfy the thermostat. You need to drain the tank completely because the valve sensor is about one inch diameter probe that screws into the side of the tank from the back of the valve. I am now an expert at gas valves. Operating Range: 0 to 150 F (-18 to 66 C)*, *Valve will operate at 0F (-18C) but valve, characteristics can not be guaranteed until, Storage Range: -40 to 150 F (-40 to 66 C), Humidity: 95% non-condensing at 104 F (40 C), This device is certified by Canadian Standards. Tonight I came home to the 4 blink code again No problem Ill just reset it one more time to get us through showers tonight and replace it tomorrow. While I didnt have any leaks, I was sweating bullets during the testing and first fire up of the furnace. I checked the voltage from the thermopile: 750 millivolts with pilot light lit while holding in the button. Could sediment do this? reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! I finally decided I would remove the burner unit & giveit a thorough cleaning (blow, brush & vacuum the screen) in the morning. Who came up with the dumbass design that when you turn the dial to a normal, albeit high, position, it breaks the water heater? This is a BRAND NEW Honeywell Gas Water Heater Control Valve. It is interesting to note that the water remained lukewarm with just the pilot lit over the past several days. Looking at the V of the Valve body pins, the left top pin is the pilot valve. Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? I re installed it and got the 7 flashes instead of the four flashes. I did the same thing but it immediately returned to four flashes. Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water Heater Filed under useful Executive summary: Once it has detected a "water too hot" event, the gas valve will never work again unless you know how to reset it. Unfortunately, Charles, your fix did not work for me. Now WH is working fine. Thanks forcreating this site! 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