TRR reached out to Visconti numerous times for comment about his partnership with MacDonald and his provocative social media posts, but Visconti did not respond. And I remember a comment being made. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. Jennifer She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. To myself, I said, and do our job. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. And I got the text. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. And we were at an absolute stalemate. If you read his letter, he was going to publish his letter. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. But so much else not owned. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. Divorce sadly acknowledges the truth. "I was sitting in the back seat. You can review it. This wasnt anything else. His employment is coming to an end. This man has been your pastor for decades. And I knew that I needed to do something publicly. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. Great! Charles, Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. He has always been a total its all about me. . It was a conference call because it happened fast. I acknowledge my sin to you. And why do you do it in front of everybody? Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. H arvest Bible Chapel and founding pastor James MacDonald have announced that they plan to drop their lawsuit against The Elephant's Debt bloggers and Julie Roys after a court today denied. And thats got to be a heavy. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. Leslie said: Julie Roys is a Christian investigative reporter who has called out some big names, and she has suffered for it. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. I also knew that I needed to talk enough so that it wasnt like, well, this whats whats going on with him? And I dont need to know. We will talk through it. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. And they were praying in earnest this entire time. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. I think, how is it that we had the word of God sitting in front of us, which is pretty clear about what to do. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And welcome to the podcast. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. Hes a deceiver. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. It was a large elder board. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? I was at work. And I checked my voicemail. Jared Prayed for you just now. And were talking about a private jet. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. I shouldnt be doing this. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. You know, Ive been here the whole time. Just look at King David . Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And I listened to it. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. So for Jim McDonald to say that he didnt remember like, Im not buying it, right? And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Its so interesting. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. And what happened in all the backroom meetings, private conversations, and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? But according. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. It wasnt an argument. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. That didnt happen. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. So lets move on to these letters. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. Right? If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. Ive listened to the entire recording. So I had a pretty good sense of what the meeting was gonna be from that point on. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. I agree. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. So he did that. Christians should stop feeding these people. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. And what happened and all the backroom meetings, private conversations and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. No, its not how it went down, Julie. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. I wish I didnt. I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. You really didnt know at that point, whether he was going to get fired, or resign, or what was going to happen until Mancow Muller aired those vulgar excerpts from this hot mic recording that James McDonald didnt know he was on mic. Thank you. There were voices raised. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. That was you, wasnt it? And now think about this. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. Ugh. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. But, I dont believe I have ever heard anyone say in any of these posts, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? But But I remember saying to the guys, listen, heres the passages Ive been studying. And when I read that, I just shook my head. No One Knows. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. So I mean, again, this was round. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. And we were at a stalemate. I am so sorry to report that he has not changed. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? The Asbury Revival Is Over. And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. And this was a spiritual battle. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. Hi. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. In the area (a south metro suburb of Minneapolis, MN ), that's just the average cost of a house. Search my early tweet history. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. Both are true. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. Had they reached all the elders at this point? @jamesmacdonald. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? I had all the letters at that point. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. How does this relate to his view of women? And he said, you know, James Macdonald had requested that I come out to a meeting and he had requested Mike Dunwoody and one other elder Mark Hopwood was a longtime elder from Elgin that we would all join them for a meeting at seven oclock on that Thursday night. And you got all of them. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. 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