probably cost $50 to make, slaps a "SRAM" badge and voila ! fox, magura, bos ect? If you buy something through Competitive Cyclist, we will get a small commission, you wont pay a penny more, but it helps keep the lights on. But with that Quarq name its almost double. The idea is that by constantly measuring the air pressure inside your fork or shock, it can tell where in the travel you are at any given moment. As far as the price, I'm not too shocked. Will the sussmybike not work for coil, or not as accuratebas it does for air? The direct-mount version that threads directly onto the air valve for inverted forks gets the same reduction, now down to $380. Join the Pack and get the latest news and read the latest reviews on the topmountainandelectric mountain bikes. #1 Hi all, Been using a ShockWiz recently. Thing is though if you race, whether that be downhill or enduro, ideally your suspension setup should be different for each track. I hope a LBS near me will buy and rent, I don't need my own but would love to perfect my suspension setup. If you dont already have aShockWiz, the best news is lower pricing, which should make the device more appealing to a wider audience. After logging some data, get your phone out and take a look at what it suggests. This is the new Focus Jam2 and Sam2. eg. Suggestions change with the terrain and as mentioned a screen shot of the data. Yes we can argue software development has very little overhead but this is a niche product. The device is able to tailor recommendations to how you are riding as well - this powerful suspension tuning devices works for cross-country riding, trail riding, all-mountain riding, and down hill riding. This should be mandatory at all bike shops. The ShockWiz app displays straightforward adjustments that unite bike, terrain and riding style. It would be frustrating to spend the $400 only to find out your suspension is set up correctly anyway. To work properly, this page requires JavaScript to be enabled or to use the most recent versions of Google Chrome, Safari, or Firefox. PRIVACY POLICY Each additional day is $10. Are there any plans to support double positive air chamber forks? Looks way to basic to really get a sense..I would like to see it save all your rides between date X,Y and provide a all around setting that will be best for ALL of the trails you've ridden in the past month. ShockWiz works for all mountain bike riders, regardless of their experience or bike's intended use. Hopefully some bike shops will get in on the act. Posted Feb 15, 2017. Data aquisition in DH world cup is nothing new. How do you make the fork feel lively, without bouncing like a pogo-stick? Long rides will work for collecting lots of data, but short tuning sessions with small adjustments work well too. Simply determine which orientation works best for your bike, connect the device using one of the hoses, and zip tie it to either the back of the fork crown or to the shock air can. how does this data acquisition/tuning tool compare to an iPhone? Hmm. So now, before you head out for a big ride, just pull the data up via the app, make some quick shock adjustments, and have the custom settings ideal for that specific ride. The fourth page offers statistics. Balanced serves as a great baseline tune and is a favorite with ShockWiz users. Im running both RS and manitou currently and I've spent waaayy more time dialling in my manitou stuff. Get the device, set your bike up perfect, rent it to all your friends for $30-40 each, the. I seem to remember this on Yoann Barelli's bike at Crankworkx last year. To make use of the profile profiles, the ShockWiz device isnt required; simply open the app to find the profile you want. Installation and calibration must be performed individually for each suspension component prior to use. Well that's about what's in there so. $400usd for two would be more reasonable. As a mere hack/weekend warrior I, like 99.99% of riders, do not have access to Telemetry systems like some World Cup riders do so intuition and experience would have to do, until now. Fit bit but for bikes. That's not the entrepreneurial spiritBuy it and rent it out to you buds in exchange for after ride beers. I don't just learn about bikes at pinkbike. Its where all the data acquisition nerds gather to design what they call invisible electronics to harvest useful data and improve your ride. JavaScript is disabled. This is an awesome product. Question - Wouldn't you need to capture data from the front and rear at the same time? I believe the original Kickstarter deal was right at $250. I would love this, as I am genuinely terrified of messing up my suspension settings as I don't have enough knowledge to know exactly what I am doing. Sorry no use for it. Hurray. ShockWiz is an automated suspension tuning device for air-sprung mountain bikes that combines high-tech hardware with an intuitive smartphone app. All of this information is clearly presented on your phone, via Quarks free ShockWiz app. Cory Benson is the EU Tech Editor of Bikerumor.com. You are using an out of date browser. With the advent of Tokens/ Spacers the tuning of suspension has gone to the next level. The Shock By submitting this form, you consent to the processing of the above information in the U.S. by SRAM LLC. The price probably drop in a few years. Yeah, thanks a lot SRAM. Shop ShockWiz Profile Creations & Use Learn how to store your bike profile and ride data. Shocks have evolved to provide a wide array of adjustments for a reason. I was quite pleased that its recco was such a small mod, because that meant I could make my expensive change without that nagging doubt that it might be unnecessary. Ah ha! We need to go back to when companies amortized their R&D costs over a longer projected product life. That's pretty cool. I'm not actually after one. I would be happy to pay 30. Not everyone has the time or interest to run repeat laps of one trail to set their suspension. Looking forward to them becoming more integrated maybe fitted to where your volume spacers currently go so you can just leave it there or something similar. Their products are used to measure everything from power output to tire pressure, and in this case, to measure suspension vectors to hone-in your suspension setup. Price is steep, but if you're a raging nerd it's a justifiable purchase. Although I sometimes miss the disappointment of buying $1000 Fox forks only to have it do nothing more than go boING. As long as you can convince the renter to pay full retail price, with a full refund on return, minus the 75$ for your fee Yall suckers downvoting me are too keen to pay retail. The Tuning Styles within the ShockWiz account for these variances. Get more people in the sport if all it took was one or two hot laps on a short controlled course and the bike could be tuned to the rider. i mean, technically each different trail needs a slightly different suspension tune. Again, each item gives a short description of what it means. Shimano Cues - New 9/10/11 speed lower tier drivetrain components. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It then offers suggestions for improving your suspension setup once the data has been collected and downloaded to your device. PM me. The person with the smartest and most helpful replies will earn some sweet new gear. I probably shouldn't comment of this but couldn't resist, and you're only half right here. Shop ShockWiz Use their recommended rebound as a starting point. After tuning the rear shock on my RKT 9 RDO, I ran the Shockwiz on the front. The only gripe Id have is that for people like me that like to jump straight into things, its not entirely obvious how to get started on the app. I'm fine with the price tag, split and share it with a few friends. That is, unless there's something like a race where I would be under more pressure to get my setup dialed in. GEAR REVIEWS However, they priced me out at $400. A big part of that is tuning the suspension for your personal riding style. By signing up for email newsletters, you agree to BikeRumor's, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window). Although the BOM may be low for the actual device, you are also paying for the software development and analysis of the curve ratios for whatever type of specified riding you select. That's funny how people bitch about a product that could significantly improve how we use your 1 or 2K suspension and impact your riding experience when nobody says anything about crazy price tag of weight weenies products (carbon handlebar or wheelset) that really have a negligible impact on your bike performance. Plug it in and ride! Well that's the baseline pun out of the way, let's see what everyone else is packing. Here are a few tips we learned working with the system: THE DIRT I know bike nerds that don't ride for shit and then it's the wrong fork setup. Theyre good to know, and the bottom out count and dynamic sag are genuinely useful. I think I've just dialled in the best AM / trail bike shock ever built ( yes it's new tech and I'm worried about it not blowing up) that I can afford - not the Push - and I would love to compare this to my old Fox Evolv and CC air inline.. Ive been mountain biking for years and years and through all that time I have owned various suspension products and also for all that time like most mountain bikers I have set up my suspension with the manufactures prescribed air pressures and sag and then twiddled the rebound and compression dials to where I thought felt best, mainly using intuition. Ultimately, we found the ShockWiz to be a fine-tuning tool, and a fine one to add to any toolbox at that. By doing this, ShockWiz calculates the compression ratio of the suspension, and can determine how its riding based on pressure changes. Not only how it's doing, but also how to make it better and find your optimal fork and rear shock settings. Lightweight and durable, this powerful device provides tuning recommendations for air pressure, spring rate, compression, and rebound. Why ShockWiz? Once everything is set up, select your tune and go for a ride! If they are both air sprung, then yes! However, after watching a couple of videos online, it all makes sense. Good tip, how did you get on with the shock? Still I want one and then want to lend it to anyone who wants to try it. Thanks for explaining. this keeps your mates bits off your saddle when they offer to help you set up the susp.. would this work for all diff types of suspension? Great idea, especially for uplift days but the price is going to have to drop a couple hundred quid before I consider buying one. So based on that, ShockWiz measures how poorly the user has set up their suspension, which in the end is a very easy fix and inherently makes you faster. Particularly for the likes of people that can afford a new bike with a Float X2 on it, the relatively low cost of the ShockWiz certainly makes it worth the investment. ShockWiz is available for purchase on the Quarq website, as well as through bike shops worldwide. STORE, ABOUT US The reasomn I was asking is I may try one on my yari & see if it recommends any more than basic pressure, tokens etc before I take the plunge & buy an expensive charger 2.1 upgrade. When tuning mountain bike suspension, there is variance in how people like to ride and variance in different models of bikes. Funny, right after I sent that post I found the powerpoint presentation on how the RXF fork operates on the specialized dealer website and immediately understood why the shockwiz isnt combatible. ShockWiz is an automated suspension tuning device for air-sprung mountain bikes that combines high-tech hardware with an intuitive smartphone app. Buy it now. Singletracks may receive compensation for purchases made through any affiliate links in this article. $400 is a lot of money but if you can get together with a good group and split the cost. Once youve made your changes you can keep riding, and your score will change. Lots of armchair CEOs on Pinkbike. Think it is 510ms (milliseconds), which is 0,51s (seconds), which is a half second. I'm in. Coming soon to Mud Dock Cycleworks - Bristol, England! Honestly what I see happening is one of your bike geeky/techy friends buys it, uses it, and from there it just gets passed around all your mates until everyone finds their ideal and the "ShockWiz" finds a dusty corner of the basement. View a wide selection of Mountain Bikes and other great items on KSL Classifieds. Like the actual cost of an iPhone. Quarq: ShockWiz is a suspension tuning system for air-sprung mountain bikes that combines high-tech hardware with an intuitive smartphone app. Download the App for calibration and tuning suggestions. @properp: screenshots are rather inelegant if you ever wanted to work with that data, This wouldn't be the first Kickstarter product to severely underestimate how much their product would need to sell for and actually make money to stay in business, @properp: 75 screenshots followed by manual entry of data (75 x. holy f*cking cash grab Can you plug a Dell into your shock and have it tell you how to tune it? The ShockWiz eMTB Well worth the money in my opinion. The market will dictate whether 400 bucks is to steep(although as bikers we have accepted high prices for rather cheaply made things). Simply put that into the app and go collect some data. I think that's where the real market is. Based in the Czech Republic for 15+ years, he is a technical mountain biker, adventurous gravel rider, short & medium-haul bikepacker. The ShockWiz app is relatively easy to use, and connects to the app via bluetooth. Though your comment was probably not really useful, it made me laugh! This page show some interesting stats on the ride so far. Regardless of your riding style, experience or preference for hardtails or dual suspension rigs, the Quarq ShockWiz Tuning device will let you know exactly how your suspension is performing. Learn how your comment data is processed. ShockWiz is made with every rider in mind. It uses these measurements to give you clear, easily understood feedback on how to improve your suspension set-up, including what order you should make changes in. I mean, you only need to use the thing a handful of times. The price seems reasonable to me for what it does. It might be a viable car replacement. A Salsa Spearfish might be a bit more appropriate. The ShockWiz monitors your suspension travel by measuring the air pressure, used travel and shaft speed . When tuning mountain bike suspension, there is variance in how people like to ride and variance in different models of bikes. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. "QUARQ" - the sound you make as you pull the cash out of your pocket. Produces The intended retail price was never as low as that. Haha! One way to take the mystery out of tuning your suspension and get the most out your bike is ShockWiz. I do wish it was $399 a pair. ShockWiz runs on a coil cell battery, and only activates when it detects changes in air pressure, and automatically shuts off after ten minutes. I think that must show a graphs, impact velocity and travel, I dont know if this indirect method using air pressure is precise for this, but that is very important information, how does it compare to those little rubber circles on the stanchion? 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