The first night I checked for the night flying June beetles, I found about 15 on the NG. Waste of money, So far so good. -Aldo Leopold, Standing on the shoulders of giants. And I'm planning for a few additional Americans. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon is from the Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine, this unique hybrid of Asian and American Persimmon bears bountiful crops of sweet and flavorful, reddish-orange fruit followed by strikingly beautiful, orange-yellow fall foliage. Waste of money D 09/05/2022 DOUG HAWXHURST Persimmon tree So far so good. My Saijo are similar size to Nikitas gift, and smaller than store bought Fuyu. Very interesting! Best with Chocolate for pollination. View full details Original price $29.99 - Original price $135.00 Original price. Im hoping I dont have to build a protective tent over these trees every year into perpetuity. This is a very cold-hardy hybrid persimmon and is like most astringent persimmons, tastier, sweeter, and juicier than common persimmon. 'Nikita's Gift' is a hybrid of American and Asian varieties which is also cold tolerant but needs to be soft before eating. Planning to plant american persimmon on the larger zone 6 acreage. Im very happy to hear this too. Microclimates matter. in height. This is the first year for fruit on my Meader Persimmon and the only other variety I grow is Fuyu Asian Persimmon so I can't answer as to flavor. It's gonna be hard to harvest from a 50 foot tree. Nikita's Gift tastes more like Asian persimmon. 'Shogatsu' is flattened, non-astringent, of fair quality; bears an abundance of male flowers. Ken W Wilson wrote:Does anyone have a Nikita's Gift? It was a very hot dry summer, I did not water them at all. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree | Fruit Plants Popular Filters Blueberry Strawberry Lemon Tree Small fruit Raspberry Sort & Filter List Sort & Filter Sort By Featured Best Sellers Highest Rated New Arrivals Features Safer for Pets (1) Safer for Kids (1) Common Name (1) Blueberry (56) Raspberry (38) Grape (17) Lime (16) Blackberry (34) Strawberry (24) 4 Another western WA nursery that has N Gift is Raintree nursery. We shipyour plants using FedEx Ground the following business day after you have completed checkout. Diospyrus virginiana x kaki (picture to follow) Nikita's Gift is a Russian (Ukranian) hybrid of American and Asian persimmons. I had some the year before last that were perfect though. A cross of Rosseyanka X Kaki. NG has a more spreading habit, compared to Saijo and Yates. The fruit can stand some pretty hard freezes. this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including Hello , can anyone recommend a nursery where I can buy a Nikitas, Location: Western WA (Zone 8B - temperate maritime), Another western WA nursery that has N Gift is Raintree nursery. The Hachiya is an oblong or cone-shaped large persimmon with bright orange-red skin when ripe. There are. I didn't think it had very much flavor compared to the rich flavor and texture of Prairie fruit. There were a few seeds that were very thin and probably sterile. There can be discussions on benefits of each but if you are worried about your grafted tree being 40 foot because on Virginiana it will not and will still be a smaller tree. A guy I know out here grew it for years but it literally "broke" and died. Their plants are in pots instead of bare. I have had great yields from a Meader persimmon for more than 10 years. Redhawk. I picked the Nikita tonight and was very impressed. Weve eaten persimmons already. Bryant RedHawk wrote:Watch the fruit color change, a ripe persimmon will be purplish (this is when they fall to the ground and usually break open) and a just right for picking color is when they go orange with a tinge of the purple color starting to show up. I have 4 non-astringent Asian Persimmons. Thanks Bear! It is self fertile and its leaves will turn red in the fall. My persimmon tree, though young, is about 8 feet high. I've got a Kassandra (hybrid) and a newly grafted Mikkusu (hybrid) that I expect to be seedless as well. Similar ripening habit as Rosseyanka, fall into winter, but unlike Rosseyanka, Nikita's Gift taste more like Asian persimmon. BryantFranklin County, VAZone 7a. @Bear_with_me how did you know yates persimmon is good varieties for Pacific Northwest before starting to plant it? Are they supposed to be? I am looking forward to eating the fruit from my Great Wall persimmon tree that should bear in the next couple of years. Your trees are so beautiful. Is there a good chance of successfully ripening Nikitas or Rosseyanka in the zone 6 or would it be best to try and fit them on the 7a lot? It seems more bothered by drought than my other varieties. Softening & astringency removal can be done by allowing fruits to ripen in a brown bag, on the counter top, freezing or drying the fruits. Site and Soil:Persimmons like 1/2 day to full sun and well-drained soil Supposedly is rather dwarf (which is the growth habit I was looking for, as space is now at a premium), but also supposedly has excellent flavor. Taste: Sweet and flavorful As with figs, you need to pay at least as much attention to the length of the growing season as to the absolute low temperatures in winter. The flavor is candy sweet and possesses nuances of baking spices, raisins and brown sugar. I brought up this very point @ UD last Ag Day with a professor at their greenhouses. Add to WishlistAlready In Wishlist Add to Wishlist Recommended with Nikitas Gift Persimmon Tree Espoma Organic Tree-Tone (6-3-2) Fertilizer $12.99 Rosseyanka Persimmon Tree $49.99 Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. Availabe: Out of stock. I have seen this before. I also have a 4 yrs old Nikita's Gift growing about five feet on the south size of my house for winter protection and it has about 100 baby fuits on it right now. 432 Burnt Ridge Road. A Natural Farm & Educational Center, 23630 SR19, Howey-in-the-Hills, FL 34737, U.S.A. Download our Current Complete Retail Availability List. All times above are in ranch (not your local) time. When they are orange like a ripe pumpkin I pick them and eat them fresh. Quantity. Yates already finished producing. It did not like something about my soil or climate. Next I noticed large parts of the leaves being eaten but couldnt find any insects on the tree. Also have a semi-dwarf apple tree & a dwarf nectarine, a little less carefree.I hope an American persimmon will round things out. 1. Need a lot of trees? The variety most often found in stores. My Nikitas Gift and Saijo are on Diospyros lotus roots. It was in the ground about 4 years and grew a foot or maybe foot and a half. This astringent persimmon produces flattish, red-orange fruit that is 2 inches which ripens in mid to late October. USDA Zone:5-9, Phone: 1-877-353-4028 How warm outside to plant fig cuttings directly in-ground. Here is that Yates tree from the original post, this year. We cannot ship to Puerto Rico or international. Probably a seedling of Great Wall, it is very hardy. I think I let Nikitas Gift overproduce last year. If you do, try to keep it or prune it as the central leader so it will be less likely to be dropped by the tree.John SPDX OR. I like Saijo, an astringent-'til-ripe kaki. You might want to join Persimmonworld on facebook, if anyone has grown an Asian Persimmon tree in a pot its someone in that group. It's an astringent persimmon--tastier, sweeter, and juicier than most American persimmons. The Native Persimmon (downloadable ebook reprint of 1915 USDA bulletin), Hybrid seeds in my Nikita's Gift persimmons, Some thoughts on the occasion of harvesting my first-ever peach. I agree with the suggestion to check out hybrids. Its much earlier this year. All times are GMT-5. Havent had problems with japanese beetles on it although I have plum trees a few steps away that the beetles have been hitting so Id agree with whats been said in that regard. It regrew new ones and all was well although no flowers. Try this link. I've had fruit in 3-4 years on potted persimmon, but also, I usually remove all flowers in earlier years and focus on building a good structure. Wish List: Bass Favorite, Burgan Unk, CdDM, Maltese Beauty. Do it right is needed, I believe. In my opinion it is much better than a seedling. My next challenge will be Chocolate (Tsurunoko?) It was loaded with about 15 June beetles, the brown ones. Because pollen from native trees could result in seedless fruit formation of poor quality when native seedlings are used as pollinizers in commercial production of American persimmon, ploidy level of seedlings needs to be considered. 6-7 ft. $12.00. It is very hardy though. @Vincent_8B, nice photo with the pawpaws. It is self fertile. Sold in bundles of 10. Asian Persimmon is is hardy to 0F. Register. Fruits are more reminiscent of an astringent-til-ripe kaki than the typical virginiana - thicker skin that contains the soft, gelatinous pulp. Prok is a little like a scorn shape. On root stock you could expect to find it grafted on D. Lotus, D. Virginiana or on D. Kaki. The flavorful texture of the Nikitskaya Bordovaya persimmon is like an egg custard or like a ripe, aromatic soft peach. Just looking for some ideas and a little reassurance from folks with more experience with them. I ate some and picked most out. It's easy to tell when this persimmon is dead ripe as it falls off of the tree. Lucky P. stated Early golden won taste test year in and year out at Claypool orchard but the fruit is medium size and smaller than Prok and Yates. Search forum by user. Trust God, but always tether your camel to this tiny ad. Giants with dirt under their nails. Dropping fruit last year and this year plus needing winter protection is a pain to grow it where I live. Now this plant is considered autochthonous in the subtropics of the Western Caucasus, although not long ago, 150 years ago, it was met by botanists within the boundaries of the Circassian gardens and auls, which have now become a forest. Kiwi's, Cornelian Cherries, Pawpaws and Maypops all do fine with no spraying at all. Now Im planning to add Chocolate and CoffeeCake at the other end of my 2 acre property, because Id rather they pollinate each other but not Nikitas gift or Saijo. Spring pruning back to about 5 feet wouldnt change that right? One of the top plant introductions to date, Nikitas Gift is a Ukrainian cross of American persimmon and Asian persimmon created at Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine. The ornamental cherry trees definitely attract a lot of beetles. Personalized Gifts. Ive noticed that persimmons seem to be more susceptible to transplantation shock, especially if theyre coming from bare root. I've ordered Nikitas Gift, Edible Landscaping Nursery is great. Non-astringent varieties seem to do better in North/Central Fla, while astringent varieties better in South Fla. Persimmon Comparsion & Informational Poster for Astringent and Non-Astringent types. I hope that doesnt offend anyone, and maybe soneone with experience in Japanese language and culture can clarify. Ive been looking into Milky Spore. Ive found that they prefer cherry and then plum leaves. I am traveling next week and wanted to ripen some indoors on my travel. grew up on a farm. Nikita's gift does not get that big. (5) $29.00. I've had a lot of success fruiting Asian persimmon in pots, but I'm in zone 8b. My new trees of Chocolate (Tsurunoko) and Coffee Cake (Nishimura Wase) are on D. virgiana, but all I can say so far is they survived this summer. Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. Non-astringent fruits can be eaten firm for a crisp texture. They all have the little TM trade mark symbol, so I would think they have to be true to the name (50/50 cross?) Pollination Requirements: Self-fertile Dehydrating them takes the bitter away. NIkitas Gift continues to impress me. This year it leafed out but thats all its done. Now, in my night-time check Ill find maybe 2 on it, so Im making some progress, but there isnt a leaf left on it that hasnt been chewed on. Maybe its warmer in town. I'm not sure how big N.G.would grow. Wanting to do everything in the northern lower pennisula of Michigan, Fruit Trees and Berries that Grow Best in Your Area Naturally- Continental Climate Hardiness Zone 4. LeaflingsGardens. The other has fruited for a few years now. Holds well on the tree - I have to pull or cut the fruit from the branches. Houseplants are here and ship for free. It had only a handful of flowers, and fruits, this year. I do lose foliage so I am sure growth but as the tree gains size it effects them less. Thats what mine looked like before June . Then came a hard freeze to about 24-26F on April 9 that wiped out all of the limbs. Search. It is usually about 30% female. We graft theNikita'sGiftpersimmon onto native American persimmon root stock. I got a Nakitas Gift. If you grew those in Seattle area, you are the pawpaw king! For example, Nikitskaya bordovaya variety (the American name Nikita's Gift Persimmon), their frost resistance is much higher than the eastern persimmon, the size of the fruit is larger than the Virginian one. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED -. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. I certainly don't want a 40' American variety growing in the yard. Pests & Diseases: With proper care and placement Persimmon trees are not bothered by pests or diseases. Native cultivars include Nikita's Gift ( a native cross with Asian) and Magic Fountain. A great quality fruit that ripens late season, reaches roughly 12'-15' tall & is self-fertile. Grafts grew about 5 feet! We offer unique and rare fruit and nut trees, shrubs, and vines. Most of the Nikitas Gift and all of the Saijo fruits are still very firm. Flow cytometer analysis showed that only four of the selected cultivars were from the tetraploid race: Ennis Seedless, Weeping, Sugar Bear, and SFES; the remaining cultivars were from the hexaploid race. This year 4 remain. Small orchards of commercially available cultivars are planted in Kentucky. The upright self fertile tree is easy to grow and takes about a 12' circle of space. His list includes Americans, Asians, and hybrids. But I know both from reading and personal experience that an all-female Prok (American) will produce seedless fruit -- and lots of it. Those last two are in that first stage, of just surviving and putting down roots, and might shoot up next year if nature allows. I don't spray anything.Olga. My friend planted both Prok and Yates. Astringent fruits must be overly ripe to achieve sweetness and edibility. Large fruit, and for whatever reason the birds seem to be leaving it alone.Think you might want to consider aronia, if you're looking for an easy care, very nutritious fruit.Consider wineberries for the shaded areas? "There are some who can live without wild things, and some who cannot." The first batch that ripened earlier ( same tree) were smaller. Probably the most widely planted fruit tree in the world, Persimmons are found throughout Asia in almost every yard and orchard. It's a American x Asian hybrid. However, Nikitas Gift is a hybrid of Asian and American species, developed and selected in Ukraine, so I thought, who knows? Maybe that is because I dont fertilize or water it. Should we need some different varieties? When fully ripe and soft, this second-generation hybrid persimmon is sweet and flavorful. Yes I battle them, well actually I just submit to them. Mein Benutzererlebnis mit Cookies anpassen, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Growing Mangoes in northern California - My Mango Tree in Zone 10A. I'll know when to pick next year. 2 Asian persimmons have started a second round of growth. I have two properties on which I could plant persimmon. No winter damage in my zone 6b w/o winter protection on all of them except figs. The tast was great but no texture. Many of the leaves fell on the first day in but I am not panicking just yet. The NG persimmoons are still very hard. I have both varieties and just this year we got enough Nikita fruit to notice that they ripen almost the same, the American fruit turns purplish when ready to eat and goes "mushy" the day after the color change from orange to purple. Many thanks! Persimmon Trees - Nikita's Gift (Astringent) Customer Reviews L 09/07/2022 Lisa Hensleyss Terrible Plants were clearly in a smaller container and recently transplanted to the larger one. You could try to graft a female variety onto a male persimmon at say 10 feet or so, but it is rather experimental, as it may break off. Saijo, Nikitas gift and Jiro. On root stock you could expect to find it grafted on D. Lotus, D. Virginiana or on D. Kaki. Some winters are cold w/ snow & ice storms so I'll need something sturdy. If you place an order on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday your order will ship the following Monday. Hmm, thanks Phil. @Susu, that is about the height where my three others started bearing. Persimmon are not reliable true to seed and seedlings should not be labeled the cultivar name of the parent as they may or may not be similar. The bright reddish-orange fruit is about 3" wide and somewhat flattened on top. This is the first year it has produced anything to speak of. Considering how others in the Ozarks in this thread have had success I may try another one. It is a daughter of Rosseyanka (D.virginianaXkaki hybrid, aka Russian Beauty) back-crossed to kaki - so, it is 3/4 D.kaki. Im only finding a couple on the tree each night now, but dont know how much they move around. When I bought Saijo, it was from Raintree. Yates already finished producing. USDA Hardiness Zones: 7-9 Chill Hours: - Deciduous/Evergreen: Deciduous Plant Type: Perennial Pollinator: Self-Fertile Blooming Season: Spring Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. The first NIKITA'S GIFT persimmon I ate was a present. So my guess is, yes. I was able . Bold red leaf color in the fall is an added bonus. American, Asian and Hybrid persimmon varieties. I did not have lck with Meader Persimmon. 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