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I dont know about anybody else, but when I see something bonkers like that I tend to leave it alone, @ Forrest: Kind of surprised it was allowed to stand without edit or response. It is a sad day for others in a position of leadership at Willow Creek to have been slow to address this and take definitive steps against it early on! That is where I had to start over. The principles are sound, thoughwell enough to be applied to anyone's marriage, especially those looking to place God in the middle. It is incredibly sad to see. I sat on a committee for two years which did nothing but brainstorm ways to increase retention rates and decrease progression time through our programsour biggest nightmare was the student who didnt get connected to some group, we knew they were likely to get lonely, drop out, go back to their hometown and become a settled-in townie. @ Barbara Roberts: Things add up all too well, sadly. By . Some of how he came across might also be that to some extent, he too has been a victim of at least some lies and misconstrued intentions. ? Why not go public 4 years ago?? The Body of Christ will be fine. All about leadership, leadership, leadership. Yep and the email deal reminds me of someone else. Maybe thats just how he is. Willow Creek's stature in the Christian community may have also helped Lynne Hybels, Bill's wife. Weve seen all kinds of abuses from ministry leaders and time always reveals the truth. He just got knocked off his pedestal and some of his supporters are throwing up their hands in despair. I think the *Ambien* excuse is important in this account. You would think that wannabe preacher boys would be warned off of that in seminary. But one thing I know, we have a choice in our behaviors. * It is about power and control and until people in churches get this, they will be waaaaay behind the culture. He told me to sit down and put my feet up. Gregory of Nyssa was about as Orthodox as one can get, and yet he was also about as universalist as one can get. Shauna Niequist has apologised for failing to speak up after her father, Bill Hybels, was accused of sexual misconduct. Yes, it should be mentioned. And us adults have to learn not to be so easily snookered by evil experts masquerading as wonderful people and pass red flags along to children. But, I seriously doubt your using scripture as a club will shame, convince or condemn many here. Mahaney books. Maybe you were mistaken, and maybe it was just a fluke and will never happen again. Your boss? Weve both been busy with writing projects and many other things. I think you have to either ask, as okrapod mentioned, or kind of read the room. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. I would posit that there are at least two types of sexual abusers, and it appears that the narcissists seeking to traumatize people into submission outnumber those who act out irresistible urges. Other women are coming forward. Bill Hybels got married to Lynne in 1974. If people doubted my testimony about being assaulted by a guy who publicly harassed women that nobody could stand, then certainly they wont believe their favored celebrity can do things like that. Thank you for adding some lightness to this overwhelming news. Hooray for David. And I promise: NO ONE was ever saved, in all history, because of eloquence. Now, you should go back and read about victims and try to learn why this open letter hurts real victims. I do not buy Hybels IT excuse for one second. There is a reason that big names get away with so much. 1 kiss Why are you slamming the Bride of Christ? Certainly if Jodie is on staff currently, she needs her walking papers today! Ok, So Nancy Ortberg was fondled, hugged, touched. Leave the tabulations to the guy with the higher pay grade. Whats His true name you should know youve written a lot of books, etc and been a pastor for a very long time. I am quite curious what nonsense what posted now, because what?! And if it gets really bad the staunch hybels factions may end up being ousted. Who would believe any of it if it were not for the Ortbergs? Thanks, Barbara, for your outstanding work. There is a small but growing movement among evangelicals against unique friendship for Israel, embodied by the recent "Impact Holy Land" conference hosted by Evangelicals for Social Action in Philadelphia. Yep. Im no expert, but my research in such matters suggests how clever and manipulative abusers are. Those are, in my opinion, less the goals than the tools used to achieve the real goals, which I am guessing are not the spiritual health of the Body of Christ. But the church's growth also took a professional and personal toll on Hybels, who had married his. I guess you are not aware of the president for whom Hybels was a spiritual advisor. To me (and probably to a lot of jurors), timely Disappearing of Evidence = ADMISSION OF GUILT. Whats being destroyed is the idol worship of Bill Hybels. I leave all matters of *who is and who is not a real Christian* In the capable hands of the One who has a higher pay grade. (I do think that helped me collect the red flags sooner, though). Oh dear. That is a huge red flag. This is going to get worse before it can get better. Or, they quickly retract. But of course, youve been trained up in the world of megas, where vapid sayings take the place of the Bible. I was joking about the dog. I never saw a cross hanging in Willow nor heard a pastor speak out against gay marriage, women pastors or the slaughter of the Palestinians, etc . Oh well. I have said that I do not appreciate victim denigration which is inherent in her supposed expos .Enough is enough. Willow Creek / Bill Hybels had IT powered by the Ambien Operating System. This is my church and I dont think there are any loliests but there are people who want a full accounting. HE GOT AWAY WITH IT, SO CAN I! What I count is as follows: The Eleven and Jesus followers went on to be faithful in following their Lord in establishing the Church by the power of the Holy Spirit. As we got up to leave at the end of the evening Bill said to me in front of the group, Nancy why dont you stay for a couple of minutes for us to discuss your ministry work? I immediately looked at the others for how I should respond and one of them smiled and said, Okay, see you in the morning.. Never being offended. Bill Hybels stepped down. The faith survived the persecutions.It will survive Bill Hybels indiscretions. At TWW, comments become a place of learning and exposure. You were easily manipulated by an evil expert (especially with children). Im a pastor and a survivor of emotional/verbal abuse (in a relationship, not in a church), and I can tell you that one of the biggest reasons I stayed as long as I did was because I was convinced that I didnt deserve better, I made my own bed and had to sleep in it, and that what I got was as good as I could ever hope for. Ummm-not exactly. If theyve discontinued publishing/reprinting his works, they did so without any public notice that Im aware of, and wouldve taken them well over a year. the narcissists seeking to traumatize people into submission outnumber those who act out irresistible urges. Some more publicly than others. I am terribly concerned that there is game playing going on here by people who cannot accept that Bill Hybels has resigned and he did so believe there are problems that people cannot accept. She bears serious emotional scars to this day, several decades later. Example, why did you agree in front of everyone to stay after everyone they all left,you idiot. And whistleblowers are rarely the pristine good guys with no baggage. If you ever get the chance find the book, Corporate Cults. No one wants to think their pastor is being inappropriate, so your brain just dismisses it. Oh yeah. The Devil is destroying yet another church. Recently she revealed that while she was in her 30s she was repeatedly sexually abused by her boss over an eight year period. Who are the people our Creator said were His people?, Are you one of those Serpent Seed believers? They are evangelized for church. Once again, power is used to disrespect and mistreat others thereby inflicting invisible but very real, very painful wounds. See, here is the problem . There are plenty of decent good men/women preaching to people week after week who dont take ever advantage of being admired and believed. As has been pointed out above, many ways to digest the Bible; however a almost universal understanding is to be Christlike. @ Davis and Natasha: (Usually seeker Megas go with you are just human and made mistakes and not you are a worm so its to be expected. Please stop reporting about Jodis letter. @ Davis and Natasha: Just a followup to my above comment. Is it even possible that one leads to the other, as the power dynamic created by abuse is addictive? I hope that you are correct that what was stated by Jodi Walle is not true. Are you aware, Mr. Brucker, that you are essentially playing with a full house or a straight flush in the rationalization department? Well, to show you how prophetic I am, I predicted years ago that most mega churches would be car lots or community centers by now. Not a wise thing to do. Open Discussion Page. As I said before, I think people who disbelieve the testimony of victims are the least credible people in these situations.. That isnt good for anyone. but I know you dont have that set up. The man who assaulted me regularly made passes at women in public. I read it Daily and Journal too. One-World ANYTHING is a recognition signal for End Time Prophecy Wack Job. Sounds like at least some of the accusers would like to see justice for sure, but also redemption for even Hybels. What woman who may have had a relationship with Bill, but are now married, would want their name and reputation trashed? Harvey was condemned by Hollywood while Bill received the proverbial Standing O, I had to read this twice. The only thing you can blame other people for is making his deception known. I have long been leery of Hybels (and other mega church pastors) because these guys are basically Christian rock stars and are treated accordingly. So call the best pastor you can, but the best pastor is the most Christ-like, not the most TV-ready. @ dee: I actually thought it was funny. Like the real estate/mortgage broker years ago who the day before the search warrant came down, backed up an industrial shredder van to their office for an all-day shred-everything party. I cannot find the comment so let me Some person, purportedly a woman, is blaming the women for going to Hybels hotel room. How would it be possible to remain as a staff member and not address the issue? IF NOTHINGS DOCUMENTED, IT NEVER HAPPENED AND YOU CANT PROVE A THING!!!!!. Where is the scribe? This caliber of leaders dont just stay quiet. Testimony of victims and witnesses is not gossip. . 1 Peter 4:8 And, no, it does not minimize their words concerning what Bill Hybels has done. Or been involved with the thought reform in a social justice Warrior Church. If it is seeing a good friend after a long time, a family member, etc, understandable. What is the Body of Christ? Recently posted by the Chicago Tribune, which has tracked this story since breaking it in March: Two publishers suspend publication of books by megachurch pastor Hybels in wake of misconduct allegations.. READ MORE: Brian Scotto Net Worth Books Some of his published books are: The Power of a Whisper: Hearing God, Having the Guts to Respond; Too Busy Not to Pray: Slowing down to Be with God; Simplify: Ten Practices to Unclutter Your Soul; I believe the world is far more interested in Christians who know they are sinners and deal with it as opposed to Christians who are actively trying to keep the sin thing on the down low. Like the invitation sent out to for the Family Meetings, and the actual meetings themselves. But Moses said to the LORD, Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of tongue. 11 Then the LORD said to him, Who has made mans mouth? One has nothing to do with the other. I have been doing this for 9 years and that is jus plain baloney. I developed this over the last 10 years in writing curriculum on addressing systemic abuse. My bad for not being back in touch with you. I am not surprised at all that it will get ugly There are people that are totaly sold out to seeker sensitive approch. I hope its okay to post. Hybels, the influential founder and pastor willow creek, resigned in april 2018 after 42 years leading the church. Was it addressed and ignored by the elders? We notice them! What I count is as follows: I think the safest place for interaction is in public. Fast forward to a point where a number of people are coming forward sharing *the same experience. "He told me what he thought about how I looked, very specifically, what he thought about my leadership gifts, my strengths," she told the Tribune. The comments from some in the WCC Trebuchet Club has brought this home to me. Im probably sensitive about this because Ive seen the this is what you get for being an egalitarian on social media and it drives me nuts. In hindsight, it is exactly as others have stated predatory, calculated and manipulative all with a facade of kindness and mentoring. (1 Cor. Willow Creek needs Jesus and they need to let Him be in control. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Its all God this, God that, God God God. Wherever my story takes me, however dark and difficult the theme, there is always some hope and redemption, not because readers like happy endings, but because I am an optimist at heart. but 4 YEARS went by, even after John Ortberg tried to have the Willow Elders handle this 4 years Nancy Ortberg still didnt speak out. They sounded clearly clueless about the price and pain that Hybels' behavior inflicted on his victims. truthseeker wrote: I believe the accusers in this case especially since you corroborate that they knew the difference in a hug and a hug. @ Bea: Its the attempt by pastors to do life together and facilitate relationship-building which will then hopefully anchor the visitor to the church and reduce dropouts and increase retention rates. And a pedestal they can fall from and did. To teach Nancy a lesson with deflection? From what I understand Hybels had a history of handpicking Bible versus to pummel anyone who disagreed with him concerning church doctrine, etc Not surprising. Will the newly installed Willow Creek pastoral leadership/management just put a proverbial 501(c)3 band-aid on an open sore and continue business as usual; now that there has been identified a large hole in this churchs ethical, moral and scriptural superstructure? So much! She also questioned her own judgment in whether he was actually being inappropriate. Ok. (That last one is pure fun in a mega church because you have to trust the elders/boards. Strange things are happening on Twitter on this case. In response to that question: Was Hybels leading folks to Christ or to Hybels? The invitation to the first Family Meeting stated in the first paragraph that this group wanted to damage the church and the senior pastor! The Willow Creek board apparently presented a report saying there was no evidence to support the Bill Hybills allegations? Instead of turning the other cheek or choosing kindness in the midst of your disappointment, I see anger and a willingness to hurt other people. When will people get it that the church is not the same thing as the body of Christ. I think I said in another thread, there are hugs and there are hugs and we can generally tell the difference. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdWApwbudQ. If it is seeing a good friend after a long time, a family member, etc, understandable. You know, Bill Hybels for two decades or more promoted himself as the one with a system that would revolutionize the church and make it relevant. Scapegoats? How can you say to your brother, Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye, when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? Read Paul on Mars hill. It often makes for very lively and interesting discussions. Thanks Dee. 3434 pant, right? Church Discipline Why would we expect a follower of Hybels to be different from Hybels? However, there are a couple of things we cannot judge and this is what I believe what Scripture is talking about. While still being married, Stephany accidentally reconnects with a former lover, who is hideously ugly and struggling nancially. Is there love afte. A former minister of mine would give the teenage girl side hugs, which put his hand in a place it shouldnt have been. I absolutely agree that the same exact methods are used on both ends of the spectrum. @ Lydia. Because I handled it in the moment (As she did with her push away response to Hybels) And it worked. Read the books and follow the formula. It does not promise moonlight, roses and a string quartet. I can assure you that everyone is reading the comments!!! Learn to value yourself. How is that not normal? Whew, those poor WC members have been exposed to some characters! LOL. I wonder if he knows? So they fell in line with the One World system, befriended evil people and embraced Satans (the worlds) ways. Christian vs. Jew I mean, it makes for good gossip too. Nope. The invitation to the first Family Meeting stated in the first paragraph that this group wanted to damage the church and the senior pastor! I realize that what Jodi Walle is saying John Ortberg did is not on the level of what Bill Hybels did, but it still is extremely unbecoming of a pastor of a church to use the F word or comment on the looks of other women. I agree. In your view, discussing Hybels behavior is worse than his behavior. Catherine-you are in permanent moderation. I try to look for the patterns and tactics of the perps and their enablers. Maybe they even went to the Wailing Wall and performed that satanic ritual and maybe were forever changed and lost. Kudos to these two publishers. All we can do is obey the Lord, do whatever it is were told by Him to do. It is clear to me that God did not want this hidden any longer.. not for this long. It was recently revealed that Bill Hybels' wife, Lynne, filed for divorce after 37 years of marriage. He sees things.. @ Lydia: i can not think of any good reason the pastor would want that! . ) bugs me. (The servants name was Malchus. Like you, quite a few of us have spent years studying it deeply. Stunned, I finally slipped my arms up between us and pushed him away. @ dee: Hybels has barely spoken anything about his married life and rarely has appeared in the media with his wife. Maybe hes just old. Lynne Hybels did not respond to messages seeking comment. Because you put so much trust and admire a leader like Hybels, your first instinct is to dismiss anything off about them. Read Acts 2. The strength and impact of Nancy Beachs and Vonda Dyers words remain, thankfully. The fact that people post here and not just give up on the church and Christainty gives me great comfort the NT clearly warns of false profits amoung the brethern and clearly teaches we should have qualified leaders. Judge and this is my church and the senior pastor not judge and this is going to worse! Cant PROVE a thing!!! same exact methods are used on both ends the. 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